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Post by Gangplank on Jan 9, 2011 0:06:00 GMT -8
So I thought it might be a good idea to have a thread with a collection of cliffs notes from professional instructors. I'd like people to post up quotes if they feel they are good. Comments are ok too (on topic is better!) Put the quote, keep their words and cite it accordingly. Here is #1. It is from Ken Hill's page: "Going to the Buell trackdays have been great. Testing myself to learn new tracks in sometimes adverse conditions, with riders I have never ridden with has been a challenge. (Oh, and a hell of a lot of fun!) The common issue I see is people sitting in the middle of the seat, or going back to the middle of the seat between corners. This rider usually ends up running out of time to go back to the side of the seat before a turn and I find, never ends up taking weight off their arms. They end up off line, have too much weight on their arms and never get the bike to change direction. Commit to never being in the center of the seat, either 100% to the left or right, all the time. I also had the opportunity to talk to 3 of the winners of the AMA races at Road America after their races. All 3 had one common thought, have a plan for your riding. All 3 used a track map between sessions as well as writing notes…..So, do you?" khcoaching.com/?cat=1My conclusion: 1) Get out of the seat even when you feel you are between corners. Lazy is not good. Side to side never on my butt. 2) After sessions take a min to jot notes in a notebook and review the track map while I do.
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Post by Dale on Jan 9, 2011 9:08:31 GMT -8
I want to go to this little guys school LOL
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Post by Oneup on Jan 9, 2011 9:29:00 GMT -8
1) Get out of the seat even when you feel you are between corners. Lazy is not good. Side to side never on my butt. This is something that I worked on for most of last year because of Ken and I can honestly tell you that it helps a great deal. He told me the only time I am allowed to be in the middle of the seat is on the front straight at Miller or if I qualify for a Moto GP race. It made a huge difference in my riding.
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Post by Justin(o) on Jan 9, 2011 9:46:47 GMT -8
He told me the only time I am allowed to be in the middle of the seat is on the front straight at Miller or if I qualify for a Moto GP race. Nice. Greg, I honestly hope you get to the middle of the seat!
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Post by koth442 on Jan 11, 2011 18:47:52 GMT -8
Ironically I was just going to make a new thread about body positioning but this is close enough so I'll hijack it . JP took a video of me last time I was on the track and sent it to me earlier today. I was watching it and noticed how my shoulders don't move. I was kind of aware of this previously and have done some experimenting with moving my shoulders. When I move my shoulders out over my knee/tank it feels like I'm putting wayyyy to much weight on the inside foot peg which may cause me to lo side. Any comments? <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/XZ1i19ac9qw?fs=1&hl=en_US"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/XZ1i19ac9qw?fs=1&hl=en_US" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
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Post by koth442 on Jan 11, 2011 18:48:21 GMT -8
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Post by Dale on Jan 11, 2011 19:06:09 GMT -8
here...a little more help
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Post by zipbyu on Jan 11, 2011 19:41:52 GMT -8
Love the inverted sticker on the windshield.
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Post by koth442 on Jan 11, 2011 22:27:39 GMT -8
here...a little more help Thanks Dale.
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Post by Redleader on Jan 11, 2011 23:46:10 GMT -8
Just a quick look... Seems as if your shoulders and hips aren't moving together. Your butt moves off to the side but your shoulders stay in the middle. Everything needs to be inline and together. Lefts are a little bad, the rights i saw were worse (left turns are usually easier, non throttle side). Work with one of the instructors E! or otherwise. Justin is a great resource.
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Post by koth442 on Jan 12, 2011 9:41:01 GMT -8
Okay, here's my next question for you. When I move my shoulders and hips together it feels like there is to much weight on the inside peg which feels like it may cause the bike to wash out. Is this normal? Or am I still positioning something wrong?
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Post by Putz on Jan 12, 2011 10:02:20 GMT -8
Okay, here's my next question for you. When I move my shoulders and hips together it feels like there is to much weight on the inside peg which feels like it may cause the bike to wash out. Is this normal? Or am I still positioning something wrong? Some one with more experience can hopefully answer this better then I but here is what I have been told (conflicting answers): (1) 90% of your wieght on your inside foot is normal. (2) Your weight should be held by your outside leg being locked against the tank so you should be able to put less weight on your inside foot.
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Post by Justin(o) on Jan 12, 2011 10:33:09 GMT -8
It may feel as though you have much more weight on the inside, but I'm guessing you're thinking of weight specifically on the pegs, as opposed to overall weight distribution like your outside leg being locked against the tank.
Weighting the inside will surely reduce traction and help break the rear wheel free, while weighting the outside will get the rear hooked up.
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Post by Dale on Jan 12, 2011 10:36:57 GMT -8
since you are 'crossed up' in the turns, it is probably adding the extra weight to the inside peg you are feeling. I have/had the same bad habit (learned to ride dirt first). Get your head out over the grip, go into the turns head and shoulders first (point shoulders into the turn not away from it) and your peg weighting problem will probably go away on it's own.
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Post by koth442 on Jan 12, 2011 20:02:40 GMT -8
Hmmm....sounds to me like I need to get back out on the track xD
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