Post by Justin(o) on Sept 24, 2010 11:57:55 GMT -8
This is about all track day providers, at all tracks, so I started a new thread as not to confuse it with an unusual circumstance. We have a Track Flag's thread which is a sticky in this section.
There are four separate issues with flags:
What they mean (rider responsibility)
How we react to flags (rider respnsibility)
The ability to identify flag stations on the course (rider responsibility)
Timeliness of flags hoisted, (not under our control)
My video post addresses identifying the stations.
I cannot accept hearing "I've never seen a corner workers station on 14" or "I can't see tower 12''
We have a lot of time to see all flags, (provided they are hoisting them with enough notice. If they are late, it doesn't matter how long you can see the corner station. I get it)
Personally, I have never experienced a 'late flag' on 12. As a 'vest wearing' monitor, I have always had enough time to give the flagger confirmation that i've seen it, and still make the corner.
I also look at 12 after rounding 13.
I don't lose focus of how many laps completed Vs. what time I started. I know I can nail 5 laps during a session. So, I usually pit after 5 laps.
This is not a 'WSBK qualifier' where we put our head down to log the fastest lap until we're pulled off the course or run out of fuel.
I don't want to ride with anyone that claims they can't see the stations.
If you can't see flagging stations you are riding over your head and you are dangerous.
If you're RACING and can't see the stations you're riding over your head and still dangerous.
A huge attraction of riding on any track is that you are warned in a advance about what is beyond your field of view, and around the next bend
Anyone of us could be laying down around the next bend, so we owe it to each other to see EVERY flag that is adequately displayed on course.
Thanks to Chad for this video of the flag station locations throughout the track shown from a very wide angle camera that distorts perception making everything look father away.
www.youtube.com/user/pwcracer22#p/a/u/0/gYuHCrItsKM
Once again, I shall retreat to my dungeon
There are four separate issues with flags:
What they mean (rider responsibility)
How we react to flags (rider respnsibility)
The ability to identify flag stations on the course (rider responsibility)
Timeliness of flags hoisted, (not under our control)
My video post addresses identifying the stations.
I cannot accept hearing "I've never seen a corner workers station on 14" or "I can't see tower 12''
We have a lot of time to see all flags, (provided they are hoisting them with enough notice. If they are late, it doesn't matter how long you can see the corner station. I get it)
Personally, I have never experienced a 'late flag' on 12. As a 'vest wearing' monitor, I have always had enough time to give the flagger confirmation that i've seen it, and still make the corner.
I also look at 12 after rounding 13.
I don't lose focus of how many laps completed Vs. what time I started. I know I can nail 5 laps during a session. So, I usually pit after 5 laps.
This is not a 'WSBK qualifier' where we put our head down to log the fastest lap until we're pulled off the course or run out of fuel.
I don't want to ride with anyone that claims they can't see the stations.
If you can't see flagging stations you are riding over your head and you are dangerous.
If you're RACING and can't see the stations you're riding over your head and still dangerous.
A huge attraction of riding on any track is that you are warned in a advance about what is beyond your field of view, and around the next bend
Anyone of us could be laying down around the next bend, so we owe it to each other to see EVERY flag that is adequately displayed on course.
Thanks to Chad for this video of the flag station locations throughout the track shown from a very wide angle camera that distorts perception making everything look father away.
www.youtube.com/user/pwcracer22#p/a/u/0/gYuHCrItsKM
Once again, I shall retreat to my dungeon
