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Post by jlavallee on Feb 20, 2011 16:40:01 GMT -8
I'm using only one spring and two cut ones and there is still not enough slip. Just an FYI.
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Post by Oneup on Feb 20, 2011 16:55:36 GMT -8
Hmmmmm. I may have to change it then. I've ridden these bike with two springs in them and didn't have an issue. I've also ridden them without the mod and didn't like it.
How high are your rpm's when you downshift? Part of the problem might be that you aren't high enough in the revs to initiate the slipper.
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Post by jlavallee on Feb 21, 2011 4:54:01 GMT -8
It depends on the corner but it's not like I am downshifting in the 10k range.
I tried two and it was not good at all. I went to one with two cut ones behind it (toward the nut) and it was a lot better. Still not as good as some of the tweaked GSXR units or a stock ZX6.
Anyway, that was my experience. Remember too that I am a heavy guy so it should be slipping easier for me.
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Post by Oneup on Feb 21, 2011 13:26:58 GMT -8
Strange, most of the ones I've tried have worked well. The only one I haven't liked was when I rode the Fail Bike. It nearly threw me over the front from engine braking.
I grab my first downshift before I brake so usually at or around redline. I'll be interested to see how well mine works.
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Post by jlavallee on Feb 21, 2011 15:00:45 GMT -8
I've got a buddy up north who ended up doing the same thing I did. I guess some of it depends on what you're looking for. I am kind of disgusted that the stock ZX6 rocks while this slipper in stock form was essentially useless and is not as good now.
Someday if I ever get to a place where I am riding enough to make it worth while I'll put in a proper aftermarket unit.
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Post by Oneup on Feb 21, 2011 15:17:52 GMT -8
I haven't ridden the Kawi's but from my experience the R6's with the mods worked a little bit better than the GSXR's. The best I've ridden so far has been the STM I had in my Honda. That thing was perfect.
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Post by jlavallee on Feb 22, 2011 10:05:33 GMT -8
I haven't ridden the Kawi's but from my experience the R6's with the mods worked a little bit better than the GSXR's. The best I've ridden so far has been the STM I had in my Honda. That thing was perfect. The ZX6 07/08 was about as good as a stocker gets. The GSXR's are apparently a bit of a **** to adjust but they work ok when set up right. The R6 with one spring is tolerable and in the GSXR league but still nowhere near as good as a stock ZX6. The STM is a clutch done right to be sure.  |
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Post by Oneup on Feb 22, 2011 17:22:25 GMT -8
I'll be finishing up the bike this weekend (except bodywork) so if anyone wants to come by and hang out/help they are more than welcome to. I'll probably start around 11 on Saturday and work on it most of the day then start around 9 on Sunday and work on it until it's finished. If you want to come by give me a call or send me a pm and I'll give you directions.
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Post by Dale on Feb 22, 2011 18:16:20 GMT -8
Would be cool if you could explain how you get rid of the emission stuff and what mods are required (timing, porting etc) that might be required when you do that. I have always been hesitant to remove that stuff as the computers require some inputs from them (or so I thought).
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Post by koth442 on Feb 22, 2011 19:17:33 GMT -8
Bitchin thread. Had some pretty good laughs at the beginning and some awesome looking pictures. I have to admit, with an R6 that clean I'm not sure I could bring myself to tear it apart like that  . |
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Post by Oneup on Feb 22, 2011 19:54:20 GMT -8
Would be cool if you could explain how you get rid of the emission stuff and what mods are required (timing, porting etc) that might be required when you do that. I have always been hesitant to remove that stuff as the computers require some inputs from them (or so I thought). I honestly don't know what what is required electronically. I am pretty sure that the smog system leans out the bike but I don't know what removing it does to the fi system. I'll show you what I did to remove my system though. I started with the charcoal canister:   The canister had a couple hoses coming off of it. All hoses were removed and the points that they went to were blocked off. They were also connected to a valve that had a harness connected to it. That was also removed:  The smog valves that go into the valve covers were removed and replaced with block off plates:  Some bikes don't have removable plates and just need to be sealed off. Every place that had a hose going to it was blocked off with the exception of the throttle bodies. Those I tied together because it was easier.  And that's all I know about the smog system. Bitchin thread. Had some pretty good laughs at the beginning and some awesome looking pictures. I have to admit, with an R6 that clean I'm not sure I could bring myself to tear it apart like that . Only one way to build a racebike I'll start on the rest of the buildup where I actually start putting cool stuff on it. |
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Post by Dale on Feb 22, 2011 21:14:01 GMT -8
cool. Thanks Greg.
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Post by Oneup on Feb 22, 2011 21:19:08 GMT -8
Sorry I don't have more info. I was just told to remove all of it and block off and seal all hoses and openings that are left.
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Post by Dale on Feb 22, 2011 21:25:38 GMT -8
hey! that works for me! LOL
I would have left a few #2 Pencils in there somewhere ;D
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Post by Justin(o) on Feb 22, 2011 22:42:39 GMT -8
Dale, I just removed a bunch of stuff from my bike, too. 07cbr600rr catalytic coverter, butterfly exhaust valve, the cables that actuate the valve, the servo that actuate those cables. Pair Valve (vacuum caps instead of block offs) Charcoal canister and a mile of tubing attached radiator fan Disconnected steering stabilizer. I think I removed about 5.5 pounds. I didn't replace anything. . . just removed. Thanks to Steve 2wcp and to Luke for the guidance and assistance throughout the process. Luke made some super secret capacitor/resistor/things that told the bike the ECU to STFU and GO! |
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